Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
In the 1980's, RBFO researchers proposed that "William de Burgh" of "Ranton" was born about 1305, and that he was the possible son of "Elizas de Burgh" (born about 1275) and the father of "Elias de Burgh 1" (born about 1345).
William de Burgh is listed in FamilySearch Tree, PID#: L89M-VR5..
Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
The following comments about "Elias de Burgh" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
We do have a copy of the deed by which John’s widow Alice released to their son Elias their lands in Haughton and Ranton:
Know all men by these presents that I Alice late wife of John de la Bourgh in my widowhood have released to Elias son of the said John all my right in Halghton and Ronton &c. These witnesses, John de Knytheley Thomas Banastre, Richard Noel and others.Elias de Burgh is listed in FamilySearch Tree, PID#: L89M-VRR.
Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
The following comments about "John de Burgo" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
In April 1271 Bertram was sued by Sarah widow of Thomas de Cowley for a third of two parts of Cowley manor as dower. Bertram’s attorney requested a view of the premises, and the case was adjourned to Trinity term. The following September Michael de Burgo was presented for poaching deer in Kinver Forest, and John de Burgo was fined for default in the court of Cannock and Kinver.
We have no information on the precise position of this John de Burgo in the family, which is particularly unfortunate in that he appears to be the direct ancestor of the Broughs of Leek. Michael de Burgo was a younger brother of Bertoline, and thus an uncle of Bertram III (see above). It is possible that John was his son or brother, certainly John’s descendants inherited part of the Brough estates, and there is no doubt that he was a son or grandson of Hamon de Burgo alias de Plardiwick. [Note: In the 1980's, RBFO researchers determined that it was most likely that "John de Burgo" was the "grandson" of "Hamon de Burgo alias de Plardiwick"]
We do have a copy of the deed by which John’s widow Alice released to their son Elias their lands in Haughton and Ranton:
Know all men by these presents that I Alice late wife of John de la Bourgh in my widowhood have released to Elias son of the said John all my right in Halghton and Ronton &c. These witnesses, John de Knytheley Thomas Banastre, Richard Noel and others.John de Burgo is listed in FamilySearch Tree, PID#: L89M-VRT.
The following comments about "Alice" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
In April 1271 Bertram was sued by Sarah widow of Thomas de Cowley for a third of two parts of Cowley manor as dower. Bertram’s attorney requested a view of the premises, and the case was adjourned to Trinity term. The following September Michael de Burgo was presented for poaching deer in Kinver Forest, and John de Burgo was fined for default in the court of Cannock and Kinver.
We have no information on the precise position of this John de Burgo in the family, which is particularly unfortunate in that he appears to be the direct ancestor of the Broughs of Leek. Michael de Burgo was a younger brother of Bertoline, and thus an uncle of Bertram III (see above). It is possible that John was his son or brother, certainly John’s descendants inherited part of the Brough estates, and there is no doubt that he was a son or grandson of Hamon de Burgo alias de Plardiwick. [Note: In the 1990's, the BFO Research Committee determined that it is most likely that "John de Burgo" was the "grandson" of "Hamon de Burgo alias de Plardiwick"]
We do have a copy of the deed by which John’s widow Alice released to their son Elias their lands in Haughton and Ranton:
Know all men by these presents that I Alice late wife of John de la Bourgh in my widowhood have released to Elias son of the said John all my right in Halghton and Ronton &c. These witnesses, John de Knytheley Thomas Banastre, Richard Noel and others.
Marriage Notes for John de Burgo and Alice -363
In September 2000, RBFO Researchers found that the LDS Ordinance Index listed a John De Burgo married to an Alice (Burgo) in "About 1264" of "Ranton, Staffordshire, England."
For supporting and additional information about this individual, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
The following comments about "Hamon de Burgo" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
In this last deed the witnesses include Bertram de Burgo, Philip Noel, and Michael de Burgo. This Michael may be identified by this undated deed:
Know all men present and future that I Bertoline son of Hamon de Burgo have confirmed the grant with my father made and granted to Hamon my brother and his heirs of those four pieces of woodland in Cowley fee, &c., These being witnesses, Nicholas de Chnytel(egh), Swain de Culegh, Robert Pykard, Michael de Burgo my brother and others.
It is probable that this Bertoline or Bertland de Burgo (brother of Michael) is the son of Hamon de Burgo alias Hamon de Plardiwick mentioned above as Bertram de Burgo. This is the interpretation put on the deeds by Sir William Dugdale in the 16th century, with the advantage of being able to judge the dates of the original Brough deeds, which are now lost.
...Hamon de Burgo appears as a juror in 1289-90.Hamon de Burgo is listed in FamilySearch Tree, PID#: L89M-VR1.
Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
The following comments about "Hamon de Burgo" or "Hamon de Plardiwick" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
In this last deed the witnesses include Bertram de Burgo, Philip Noel, and Michael de Burgo. This Michael may be identified by this undated deed:
Know all men present and future that I Bertoline son of Hamon de Burgo have confirmed the grant with my father made and granted to Hamon my brother and his heirs of those four pieces of woodland in Cowley fee, &c., These being witnesses, Nicholas de Chnytel(egh), Swain de Culegh, Robert Pykard, Michael de Burgo my brother and others.
It is probable that this Bertoline or Bertland de Burgo (brother of Michael) is the son of Hamon de Burgo alias Hamon de Plardiwick mentioned above as Bertram de Burgo. This is the interpretation put on the deeds by Sir William Dugdale in the 16th century, with the advantage of being able to judge the dates of the original Brough deeds, which are now lost.Hamon de Burgo is listed in FamilySearch Tree, PID#: L89M-VTM.
Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
In the 1980's, RBFO researchers determined that the father of "Hamon de Burgo"--who was born about 1172 and who was also called "Hamon de Plardiwick"--was possibly also named "Hamon de Burgo" and that he was born "about 1145" and was of "Ranton, Staffordshire".
Hamon de Burgo is listed in FamilySearch Tree, PID#: L89M-VT3.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
The following comments about "Bertoline de Burgo" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
In this last deed the witnesses include Bertram de Burgo, Philip Noel, and Michael de Burgo. This Michael may be identified by this undated deed:
Know all men present and future that I Bertoline son of Hamon de Burgo have confirmed the grant with my father made and granted to Hamon my brother and his heirs of those four pieces of woodland in Cowley fee, &c., These being witnesses, Nicholas de Chnytel(egh), Swain de Culegh, Robert Pykard, Michael de Burgo my brother and others.
It is probable that this Bertoline or Bertland de Burgo (brother of Michael) is the son of Hamon de Burgo alias Hamon de Plardiwick mentioned above as Bertram de Burgo. This is the interpretation put on the deeds by Sir William Dugdale in the 16th century, with the advantage of being able to judge the dates of the original Brough deeds, which are now lost.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
The following comments about "Michael de Burgo" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
In this last deed the witnesses include Bertram de Burgo, Philip Noel, and Michael de Burgo. This Michael may be identified by this undated deed:
Know all men present and future that I Bertoline son of Hamon de Burgo have confirmed the grant with my father made and granted to Hamon my brother and his heirs of those four pieces of woodland in Cowley fee, &c., These being witnesses, Nicholas de Chnytel(egh), Swain de Culegh, Robert Pykard, Michael de Burgo my brother and others.
It is probable that this Bertoline or Bertland de Burgo (brother of Michael) is the son of Hamon de Burgo alias Hamon de Plardiwick mentioned above as Bertram de Burgo. This is the interpretation put on the deeds by Sir William Dugdale in the 16th century, with the advantage of being able to judge the dates of the original Brough deeds, which are now lost.
...In April 1271 Bertram was sued by Sarah widow of Thomas de Cowley for a third of two parts of Cowley manor as dower. Bertram’s attorney requested a view of the premises, and the case was adjourned to Trinity term. The following September Michael de Burgo was presented for poaching deer in Kinver Forest, and John de Burgo was fined for default in the court of Cannock and Kinver.
...In 1279-80 Rose Doyley (widow of Sir John Doyley) and her son John received a formal quitclaim from Michael de Burgo of all that virgate of land in Ranton once held by Walter Noel. William de Burgo (whether the son of Bertram III or the son of Bertoline or the son of Michael is not indicated) sued John de Pykestoke in 1281-2 for a messuage, 4 acres of land and 3 acres of meadow in Burgh (Brough); John called to warranty William de Pykestoke, who was to be summoned for Easter. Later in the same roll we find that Bertram de Burgo III is dead; his widow Emma is being sued by Peter de Grauntsele for land, and the case is adjourned until Hilary.
...In 1286 Michael de Burgo, brother of Bertoline, is dead. We have no indication who succeeded to his lands in Ranton.
The following comments about "William de Burgo" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
The following year [1273] Rose Doyley prosecuted William Sturnell, Michael de Burgo, William de Onecotes, Hamon de Burgo, William son of Michael de Burgo and five others for breaking open her house at Ranton vi et armis, and killing her cattle with bows and arrows. The defendants (49) failed to appear, and after three separate summonses the Sheriff was ordered to produce them in court at three weeks from Michaelmas 1273.
"Mr. de Limesi" was the possible father of "Philip fitz Bishop"--who was also called "Philip de Burgo"--and the possible son of "Robert de Limesi". Although his given name is not known, family patronymics suggests that his given name may have been "Robert" or "Philip". The following information about "Mr. de Limesi" has been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981 (see: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html), which states the following:
"Although, prior to the Reformation, English bishops were normally strictly celibate, it was neither illegal nor uncommon for bishops in the 12th century to marry and have children, and it may be assumed that there were other descendants of Robert de Limesi. Philip fitz Bishop, who was at Brough by 1199, and is thought to have been a cousin of Thomas Noel (son of Robert fitz Noel), was probably a grandson of Robert. Robert is assumed to have been a son or brother of Ralph de Limesi...."Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
"Robert de Limesi" is listed in FamilySearch Tree, PID#: L89M-VTW.
Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual and family, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-44.
Historical information about "Robert de Limesi" is listed in Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Limesey) as follows: "Robert de Limesey (or Robert de Limesy, Robert de Limesi or Robert of Limesy) was a medieval cleric. He became Bishop of Chester in 1085, then his title changed to Bishop of Coventry when the see was moved in 1102. Robert was a chaplain to King William I of England before the king nominated Robert to the see of Chester on 25 December 1085. He may have come from a baronial family, as his surname derives from a territorial location. Robert was consecrated in 1086. At some point during the last years of Archbishop Lanfranc of Canterbury, Robert took over the abbey of Coventry as the seat of his bishopric, and managed to establish himself there permanently after Lanfranc's death. Coventry was a wealthy abbey, richer than Chester, and by making Coventry the cathedral, Robert increased the revenue of his see by a large amount. In 1102, Robert was one of the bishops, along with Gerard, Archbishop of York and Herbert de Losinga, the Bishop of Norwich, who returned from Rome and told King Henry I of England that Pope Paschal II had told them privately that Henry could invest bishops as in the past, provided they were good men. This was during the height of the Investiture Crisis, and the pope later denied the story. Robert had been part of a royal delegation to the papal curia to seek a resolution to the dispute between the king and archbishop Anselm of Canterbury over lay investiture. Robert also had business of his own at Rome, as he had sought permission from the pope to relocate his see from Chester to Coventry. Robert's effort to secure papal permission for the relocation of his see was successful. But, not only did the pope deny Robert's story, Pascal excommunicated all three bishops. Along with William Giffard, the Bishop of Winchester, Samson, the Bishop of Worcester, Ralph Luffa, the Bishop of Chichester, Archbishop Gerard, the Archbishop of York, and Herbert de Losinga, Robert in 1106 wrote to Anselm, who was then in exile over the investiture crisis, asking the archbishop to return to England. In 1106, with the settlement between the pope and the king, the pope pardoned Robert and the other bishops. Robert died on 1 September 1117."
In the 1982 research document "The Possible Parentage of Ralph de Limesi", by David Bethell, a genealogist (RBFO, August 1982, pp.10-11), Bethell states the following about Robert de Limesi: "The 'Gesta Abbatum' says that Hertford Prior was founded by Robert de Limesi in the time of Abbott Paul (1077-1093). The grant to the priory of Hertford Church is also from the time of 'abbot P',...but apparently the priory was already founded, because the first prior, Ralph [de Limesi], was the first of the witnesses to that grant. Thomas Talbot is said to have read that Ralph founded Hertford Priory, was buried there, and was also the Ralph who came over with the Conqueror. In the light of the other evidence, this statement seems to be cramming too much into the career of one Ralph. If the statement in 'Gesta Abbatum' is not merely an error, it is of particular interest. Robert de Limesi was Bishop of Chester, Lichfield and Coventry [in] about 1100; there is a reference in King's Vale Royal, probably derived from Hovedon's chronicle, that Robert had been a chaplain of the king (William Rufus). It is not impossible that Robert was involved in the founding of Hertford Prioy, and was thus presumably very closely related to Ralph de Limesi who granted Hertford church to the priory, and to Ralph de Limesi the Conqueror's sister's son."
The following comments about "Robert de Limesi" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
Robert de Limesi used his position as bishop to expropriate extensive lands in Staffordshire belonging to the diocese for his daughter Celestria and her husband Noel. By this means the Noel family acquired Ellenhall, Seighford, Clanford, Bridgeford, Podmore and Milnmease, as well as Granborough in Warwickshire. Ranton Priory was a little more than a mile north of Brough; Ellenhall lies immediately to the north of Ranton.
Although, prior to the Reformation, English bishops were normally strictly celibate, it was neither illegal nor uncommon for bishops in the 12th century to marry and have children, and it may be assumed that there were other descendants of Robert de Limesi. Philip fitz Bishop, who was at Brough by 1199, and is thought to have been a cousin of Thomas Noel (son of Robert fitz Noel), was probably a grandson of Robert. Robert is assumed to have been a son or brother of Ralph de Limesi...
Ralph was described as a son of the sister (unspecified) of William the Conqueror; he "enjoyed the lands of Christiana, one of the sisters of Edgar Atheling, by marriage (as some affirm, and according to others by gift of the Conqueror), among which was Ulverly in the county of Warwick, which he made his principal seat.". This would make Robert de Limesi, Bishop of Chester, a grandson or greatgrandson on the material side of Robert Duke of Normandy. If Ralph de Limesi was husband of Christiana the legitimate title to the English throne would have passed through Ralph’s eldest descendants.In 1917 a book entitled "The Lindeseie and Limesi Families of Great Britain, Including the Probates at Sumerset House, London, England, of all Spellings of the Name Lindeseie from 1300-1800, Volume 1", was "privately printed" in "Boston, Massachusetts" by "John William Linzee, A.B., S.B." This publication is available online (https://archive.org/stream/linzeefamilyofgr01linz#page/n13/mode/2up) and presents the following descendants of the Limesi family:
ROBERT DE LIMESI, born about 1042, of Normandy, France:
"Robert de Limesi, Bishop of Litchfield and Coventry from 1085-1117; he appears to be another son of Hugo de Limesi, as his birth if it occurred about 1070, which would be necessary to make him the son of Ralph de Limesi, ought to exclude him from the bishopric at the age of about fifteen. The Bishop of Litchfield Diocese, Robert de Limsey, removed the see to Coventry in 1095, and was King's chaplain, he died 30 Aug. 1117, and was buried at Coventry, the see was vacant above three years." (See page 190.)
Note: Robert de Limesi was possibly born about 1063 as the son of Ralph de Limesi--which would have made him about 22 years old when the King nominated him to the see of Chester on 25 December 1085.In the 1879-1881 book "History of Hertfordshire" (Volume III), author John Edwin Cussans states that the father of "Robert de Limesy, Bishop of Chester" was "Reyner". (FHL book #: British Section, Q942.58, H2cu, Vol.3.)
Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.
For supporting and additional information about this individual, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-25.
Robert de Limesi is listed in FamilySearch Tree, PID#: L89M-VT4.