HISTORICAL INFORMATION ABOUT RALPH DE LIMESI
During the past several decades occasional questions have been raised about the medieval ancestry of Ralph de Limesi (born about 1040 AD), who appears as an ancestor of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England near the top of a chart entitled "Pedigree of the Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510" (http://www.broughfamily.org/history/pedigree_1055-1510.html) in various Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO) books (see RBFO books: 1981, p.4; 1982, p.2; 1988, p.7; 2000, p.7; 2004, p.23). Some of the research, findings and diversity of opinions surrounding this subject are summarized below.
In the late 1970’s and early 1980’s, David Bethell, a genealogist and historian (living in Staffordshire, England, and author of the book "English Ancestry", 1981), documented that the "Brough" surname of "de Burgo" was adopted by Philip (fitz Bishop) and his brother Hamon in the late 1100's. Philip and Hamon de Burgo were descendants of Ralph de Limesi. In 1982, Bethell submitted an extensive research report to the RBFO entitled "The Possible Parentage of Ralph de Limesi", which stated that "In 1631," historian "John Weever" stated in his "Ancient Funerall Monuments" that "the monks” of Hertford Priory “report[ed]” that Ralph de Limesi “came into England with [William] the Conquerour, and was his [William’s] sister[‘s] sonne [son].” (Bethell, 1982, p.8). Bethell then concluded that since “the only known sister (as opposed to half-sister) of William [the Conqueror] is Adelaide or Adeliza…[and] if we assume that the monks of St. Albans were correct in claiming that Ralph de Limesi was son of William the Conqueror’s sister, and that…Adeliza’s first two marriages [to Enguerrand II, Count of Ponthieu; and Lambert, Count of Lens] left no male heirs, it seems likely that Ralph de Limesi would have been a younger son of [Adelaide and her third husband] Odo, Count of Champagne [also known as Eudes, Count of Aumale] (Bethell, pp.11-12).
However, in 1990, Robert Gunderson, a genealogist with the Medieval Department of the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, informed the RBFO that he did “not feel that the mother of Ralph de Limesi [was] Adela, the sister of William the Conqueror, but that it might be Matilda, the half-sister through his mother.” He then enclosed a reference he had used in his research, "Europaischen Kayser-und Koniglichen Houser Historische und Genealogische Erlauterung" (a book published in 1730 in Germany) as “the only source that shows Mathilde married to Lambert de Leusii” and stated that he felt “the book may have been misprinted and the spelling of Lamberts surname might be Lemsi.” He concluded his findings with the statement: “There is no proof either way [that Ralph de Limesi was either the son of Adela or Matilda]." [The above mentioned book, "Der Europaischen Kayser-und Koniglichen Hauser Historische und Genealogische Erlauterung", by Georg Lohmeier and Johann Ludwig Levin Gebhardi, published in Germany in 1730, can be found on microfilm at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, as: FHL International High-Density Film # 1051694, Items 4-6, pp.100-101.]
In 1993 and 1994, the RBFO asked Peter Jackson, another genealogist (living in Oxford, England), to conduct additional research into the possible parentage of Ralph de Limesi. On May 26, 1994, Jackson sent a research report to the RBFO which contained the following summary statements: "The first thing I ought to say is that I am now quite definite that Ralph was not William’s [the Conqueror] nephew. ...All one can say at this point is that the de Limesies were a family of considerable importance (though not of first importance) in the vicinity of Rouen.... ...To construct a tentative family tree, I would need to examine a good many more of the Norman family charters. ...I would be happy to carry out further research along the lines I have mentioned...on the understanding that this research may yield no more than a list of the members of the de Limesy family in pre-conquest Normandy, with no indications of relationships." Three years later, in May 1997, Jackson, published a short article entitled "Ralph de Limesy: Conqueror's Nephew? The Origins of a Discounted Claim" in "Prosopon: Newsletter of the Unit for Prosopographical Research" (Number 6, May 1997). In his article, Jackson made the following statements: "The name of Ralph de Limesy is well enough known to medieval prosopographers, both as a substantial tenant-in-chief in several counties in post-Conquest England and as the founder (ca 1095) of a Benedictine house at Hertford as a cell of St Alban's. From the seventeenth century, attempts have been made to put some flesh on the bones of this powerful but obscure figure by asserting that he had a very specific claim to royal patronage: that he was, in fact, the 'sister's son' of William the Conqueror. The purpose of the present note is not to test this claim (which has long been discounted) but to trace its origin a little further back--and to demonstrate its surprising resilience. [After discussing and documenting how the claim originated and expanded, Peter Jackson then concludes with the following statement:] ...The claim...would seem to originate, as perhaps one might have expected, in a late medieval attempt by the Benedictines at Hertford to exaggerate the connections of their founder. Some colour may have been lent to it by the supposed marriage of one of William's sisters, Adelaide, to Lambert of Lens. That there were connections of patronage, and perhaps of kinship, between the Limesys and the dukes of Normandy is not in question. Indeed, the granting of so many estates to Ralph by the Conqueror virtually proves as much, and bearers of this name witnessed Norman ducal charters before the Conquest; but there is no contemporary evidence whatever for a marriage between a sister of William and a member of the Limesy family. Nevertheless, the story has died hard: the editor's notes to the Phillimore edition of "Norfolk Domesday" (1984) report that Ralph was 'the sister's-son to King William.' It is a salutary reminder that a claim made orally in a medieval monastery and committed to writing by an early modern antiquary can still circulate in print even in our own day." [A copy of the above mentioned "Norfolk Domesday" book, originally published in 1858, was microfilmed in 1984 and can be found at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, as FHL British Isles Film # 994042, Item 5, pp.41-42.] Peter Jackson’s entire article can be found on the following website: http://www.linacre.ox.ac.uk/Files/Pros/PRSPN6.doc.
In 1999, the following information on Ralph de Limesi was published in the book "Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, Volume 1", by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan (Boydell Press, 1999, page 334): "Radulf De Limeseoi: Norman from Limesy, Seine-Maritime [Normandy, France, see map on page 74], arr. Rouen, cant. Pavilly (Loyd, 54). Domesday tenant-in-chief, lord of Cavendish, Suffolk. Founder c. 1093, with his wife A. of Herford priory, a cell of St. Albans. Appears to have died soon after 1093 leaving a son Ralph II, d.c. 1129. He was probably the father of Matilda, wife of Nicholas of Stafford [see page 300] (q.v). A Hugh de Limesi occurs in a charter of c. 1070 for Sainte-Trinite de Rouen (Guerard, Cart., p.439). Sanders, 29."
In March 2002, the Newsletter of the Australian Lindsay Society published an article on the findings of Mrs. Beryl Platts, who had previously conducted historical research for the Clan Lindsay Society of Scotland. Part of this article stated the following about the ancestry of Ralph de Limesi: “The great Charlemagne provided the northern part of Europe with its nobility. Charlemagne’s children married his civil and military administrators. Those families retained some of that responsibility and power into future generations, giving a structure to the society of those distant times. The Carolingian families were found in the comtes north of the Ile de France, east of Normandy, and west of Germany. The Carolingians were also found in Flanders…. The descendants of the Counts of Flanders followed two lines. The primary line, the descendants of the Counts of Flanders, arrived in England in the person of Matilda of Flanders (granddaughter of Count Baldwin IV of Flanders and Ogive of Luxembourg), wife to William the Conqueror, Duke of Normandy. The secondary line, the descendants of the Lords of Alost, arrived in England when the sons of Ralph, Lord of Alost and Gisela of Luxembourg (Ogive’s sister) accompanied William, Duke of Normandy…. Ralf de Limesi was born in Alost about 1040 AD. He had a small Norman manor in Limesi, on the north side of the Seine valley. He was the Chamberlain, to the Flemish Court. Ralph de Limesi left a son, Alan, in Warwickshire and heirs of unknown name in Limesi. Ralph de Limesi (or Ralph de Ghent or Ralph de Lindsay) came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 AD. He received Domesday estates in Somerset, Devon, Hertfordshire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire (his most important holdings), Nottinghamshire, Essex, Norfolk and Bedingfield, Suffolk as tenant in chief. Ralph’s coat of arms was gules, an eagle displayed or. Ralph de Limesi and his wife, Hawisa, founded Hertford Priory and they were generous benefactors to the Priory thereafter. Ralph died in mid-1090’s in the monastery of St. Albans…. Knights such as Ralph de Limesi had probably received their lands from the Montforts at the time of Gilbert and Alice’s marriage as part of the general reconciliation. Hainaut had ruled Alost itself before the Flemish seizure of Valenciennes.” This article can be found on the following website: http://www.clanlindsay.com/flemish_descent_of_the_lindsays.htm.
On March 15, 2006, Catharine Ann Brough Hind (of Yorkshire, England), arguably the most knowledgeable Brough historian in the world, emailed the following comments to the RBFO: “It is probable that the de Limesi’s were close kin of [William] the Conqueror. The monks of Hertford Priory reportedly said so, and why would they if it were not so? …Apart from the testimony of the monks…what cannot speak cannot lie. Whilst William rewarded his most noble followers with land and prestige on an enormous scale, those of untitled rank expected smaller portions of his new kingdom. Not so [with] the Limesi’s: manors allotted to Ralph and Robert [de Limesi] were numerous and in many counties. This was not only generosity, they were in those places to represent, defend and support all that he wanted and all that he stood for. If they were not deeply committed to him by kinship and political belief they would be in some quiet corner and happy to be so…for they had to be capable of commanding loyalty from soldiery and to build trust amongst the unhappy Saxon and Angles and Brits already here, for they would still work their land but not to their own advantage.”-----
1858 Publication:
The following information on Ralph (I) de Limesi, appears in the book "Analysis of the Domesday Book of the County of Norfolk," by Rev. George Munford, 1858 (FHL Film # 994042, Item 5, pp.41-42): "Ralph de Limesi, a relation of Robert de Limesi, Bishop of Litchfield and Coventry, was a Norman Baron, and according to some accounts, nephew to the Conqueror, although Dugdale makes no mention of such a relationship. William bestowed upon him forty-one manors in England, besides the lands of his wife Christina, one of the sisters of Prince Edgar Atheling, grandson of King Edmund Ironside, who was brother to Edward the Confessor. Ralph de Limesi founded at Herford a priory of Benedictine monks, subordinate to the Abbey of St. Alban's, in the time of Abbott Paul, who died in the year 1093. In Norfolk, Ralph de Limesi held only two manors, which were valued, both in the Confessor's and in the Conqueror's time, at £6." A "pedigree" of the descendants of Ralph (I) de Limesi appears on page 42 of this book.
1917 Publication:
In 1917 a book entitled "The Lindeseie and Limesi Families of Great Britain, Including the Probates at Sumerset House, London, England, of all Spellings of the Name Lindeseie from 1300-1800, Volume 1", was "privately printed" in "Boston, Massachusetts" by "John William Linzee, A.B., S.B." This publication is available online (https://archive.org/stream/linzeefamilyofgr01linz#page/n13/mode/2up) and presents the following descendants of the Limesi family:
RADULFUS or RALPH DE LIMESI, born about 1040, of Normandy, France:
"Radulfus or Ralph de Limesi, son of Hugo de Limesi (1); b. about 1040 in Normandy; he was also called Radulfus de Limesi in 1086. He came with the Conqueror into England and fought at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. …Whether he m[arried] 1st or 2d, Maria daughter of William Fitz Osborn, Earl of Hereford, and sister of Roger, Earl of Hereford, or C[h]ristina, sister of Prince Edgar Athleing, cannot be exactly determined. The probabilities are that he married both, Maria being his first wife." (See page 191.)
"The Princess Christina was born in Hungary, and after the battle of Hastings went with her family into Scotland in 1068-69, when her sister Margaret married [King] Malcolm [of Scotland], she was then in all probability not a nun, and certainly not the wife of Ralph de Limesi. But Christina was back again in England and held land in the Domesday Survey in 1086, from which it can be argued that she was not a nun at that time, so that she could be the second wife of Ralph de Limesi who exercised control over her real estate by making gifts of a portion of it to the Priory of Hertford between 1087-1093. Ralph de Limesi had for arms: Gules, three eagles displayed, or; which was very unusual for so early a period, except for members of royalty. The charters by Ralph de Limesi and his descendants to the Priory of Hertford indicate the authentic genealogy of his family in England, and are interesting relics of the customs of their times." (See page 192.)
"His [Hugo de Limesi] son Ralph [de Limesi] was certainly of full age when he fought at Hastings, and also of sufficient age to be one of the leading knights under King William, the twenty six years of age assigned to Ralph in 1066 seem proper to account for the circumstances surrounding him at that time; no record exists of his marriage in Normandy, or that he had any issue in that country." His descendants can now be linked up with the following dates: his son and heir Ralph [de Limesi 2] who married Hawisia could be born about 1067, his grandson Alan born about 1095, and his great-grandson Gerard born 1120-1125, which last date is about right when compared with the age of said Gerard's wife Amicia, who was born 1125. The interval of twenty-eight years, or even as much as thirty, would be none too large for a line of exclusive male succession, when the possibility of the existence of elder deceased sons, or the births of daughters, is taken under consideration." (See pages 198-199.)
"Hawisia [was the] wife of a second Ralph de Limesi, the father of Alan and Raer…." (See page 200).1981 Publication:
The following comments about "Ralph de Limesi" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
Robert de Limesi used his position as bishop to expropriate extensive lands in Staffordshire belonging to the diocese for his daughter Celestria and her husband Noel. By this means the Noel family acquired Ellenhall, Seighford, Clanford, Bridgeford, Podmore and Milnmease, as well as Granborough in Warwickshire. Ranton Priory was a little more than a mile north of Brough; Ellenhall lies immediately to the north of Ranton.
Although, prior to the Reformation, English bishops were normally strictly celibate, it was neither illegal nor uncommon for bishops in the 12th century to marry and have children, and it may be assumed that there were other descendants of Robert de Limesi. Philip fitz Bishop, who was at Brough by 1199, and is thought to have been a cousin of Thomas Noel (son of Robert fitz Noel), was probably a grandson of Robert. Robert is assumed to have been a son or brother of Ralph de Limesi, ancestor of the Barons Odingselles.
Ralph was described as a son of the sister (unspecified) of William the Conqueror; he "enjoyed the lands of Christiana, one of the sisters of Edgar Atheling, by marriage (as some affirm, and according to others by gift of the Conqueror), among which was Ulverly in the county of Warwick, which he made his principal seat.". This would make Robert de Limesi, Bishop of Chester, a grandson or greatgrandson on the material side of Robert Duke of Normandy. If Ralph de Limesi was husband of Christiana the legitimate title to the English throne would have passed through Ralph’s eldest descendants.-----
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The following information on "Christina" appears in the book "Analysis of the Domesday Book of the County of Norfolk," by Rev. George Munford, 1858 (FHL Film # 994042, Item 5, pp.41-42): "Ralph de Limesi...was a Norman Baron, and according to some accounts, nephew to the Conqueror.... William bestowed upon him forty-one manors in England, besides the lands of his wife Christina, one of the sisters of Prince Edgar Atheling, grandson of King Edmund Ironside, who was brother to Edward the Confessor. Ralph de Limesi founded at Herford a priory of Benedictine monks, subordinate to the Abbey of St. Alban's, in the time of Abbott Paul, who died in the year 1093. In Norfolk, Ralph de Limesi held only two manors, which were valued, both in the Confessor's and in the Conqueror's time, at £6." A "Pedigree" of the descendants of Ralph (I) de Limesi appears on page 42 of this book. Also, the following information on "A Uxor Radulfi"--or "a wife of Ralph"--appears on page 548 in the book "Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, Volume 2", by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan (and published by Boydell Press in 2002; FHL Book # 942 D3KK): "de Limesi, A Uxor Radulfi: Occurs in a charter of her husband Ralph [I] de Limesy founding the cell of Hertford. Both apparently died soon after 1093."
In 1917 a book entitled "The Lindeseie and Limesi Families of Great Britain, Including the Probates at Sumerset House, London, England, of all Spellings of the Name Lindeseie from 1300-1800, Volume 1", was "privately printed" in "Boston, Massachusetts" by "John William Linzee, A.B., S.B." This publication is available online (https://archive.org/stream/linzeefamilyofgr01linz#page/n13/mode/2up) and presents the following descendants of the Limesi family:
HUGO DE LIMESI, born about 1010-1015, of Normandy, France
"Hugo de Toesni, surnamed de Limesi, from his Norman Seigneurie, son of Ralph de Toesni who flourished about 1011; b. about 1010-15 in Normandy; he is probably the Hugo de Limeisi who witnessed charters of the Monastery of Saint Trinity de Monte Rothomagi, Rouen, France, about the year 1060. He probably held a manor of the name of Limesi, adjacent to the holdings of the family of Toesni or Toni, from the Viscounts D'Arques in the Pays de Caux, in Normandy. His name is not with that of his son Ralph among the Norman knights who conquered England at the Battle of Hastings in 1066, and no proof exists showing that he was ever in England; but if he was alive in 1066, then there can be little doubt that some time before his death he followed his King to England. He must have died before the compilation of Domesday Book, as his name does not appear there either as a Limesi, Toesni or Todeni. Hugh de Limesi, it is claimed, m[arried] a sister of King William the Conqueror." (See page 186).
"[The birth of] Hugo de Limesi (1) could be about 1010-1015…. It is important to notice that the year 1010 is as far back as the birth of Hugo de Limesi can be safely adjusted." (See pages 101,198-199.)
Note: The supposed ancestry of Hugh de Limesi--back to Odin (born about 76 B.C.), King of Asgardia and the first king of Scandinavia--is shown in pedigrees on pages 178-185.
The following information on Ralph (II) de Limesi, appears on page 549 in the book "Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, Volume 2", by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan (and published by Boydell Press in 2002; FHL Book # 942 D3KK): "de Limesi, Radulf II: Son of Ralph I de Limesi, d.c.1093. Married Hadvise, by whom he was father of Alan and Raerus. He died between after 1115, and before 1129, when Alan was his heir."
The following comments about "Ralph de Limesi" have been extracted from the BFO online publication: "The Early Broughs of Staffordshire: 1055 to 1510", by David Bethell, 1981. Online reference: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html):
Robert de Limesi used his position as bishop to expropriate extensive lands in Staffordshire belonging to the diocese for his daughter Celestria and her husband Noel. By this means the Noel family acquired Ellenhall, Seighford, Clanford, Bridgeford, Podmore and Milnmease, as well as Granborough in Warwickshire. Ranton Priory was a little more than a mile north of Brough; Ellenhall lies immediately to the north of Ranton.
Although, prior to the Reformation, English bishops were normally strictly celibate, it was neither illegal nor uncommon for bishops in the 12th century to marry and have children, and it may be assumed that there were other descendants of Robert de Limesi. Philip fitz Bishop, who was at Brough by 1199, and is thought to have been a cousin of Thomas Noel (son of Robert fitz Noel), was probably a grandson of Robert. Robert is assumed to have been a son or brother of Ralph de Limesi...
Ralph was described as a son of the sister (unspecified) of William the Conqueror; he "enjoyed the lands of Christiana, one of the sisters of Edgar Atheling, by marriage (as some affirm, and according to others by gift of the Conqueror), among which was Ulverly in the county of Warwick, which he made his principal seat.". This would make Robert de Limesi, Bishop of Chester, a grandson or greatgrandson on the material side of Robert Duke of Normandy. If Ralph de Limesi was husband of Christiana the legitimate title to the English throne would have passed through Ralph’s eldest descendants.In 1917 a book entitled "The Lindeseie and Limesi Families of Great Britain, Including the Probates at Sumerset House, London, England, of all Spellings of the Name Lindeseie from 1300-1800, Volume 1", was "privately printed" in "Boston, Massachusetts" by "John William Linzee, A.B., S.B." This publication is available online (https://archive.org/stream/linzeefamilyofgr01linz#page/n13/mode/2up) and presents the following descendants of the Limesi family:
RADULFUS or RALPH DE LIMESI, born about 1067
"Radulfus or Ralph de Limesi, son of Radulfus de Limesi…; b. about 1067; probably the Radulfo de Limesi a witness to a charter by Henry I., who reigned from 1100-1135…. Radulfus de Limesi m[arried] Halewise or Hawisia whose dowry were the lands of Nigel de Bradwell; she d. after he son Raerus had attained his majority, as he witnessed his mother's grant. Radulfus was probably alive in 1120, as his son Alanus is not mentioned until after 1131." (See page 206.)
The following information on "Hadvisa", appears on page 548 in the book "Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, Volume 2", by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan (and published by Boydell Press in 2002; FHL Book # 942 D3KK): "de Limesi, Hadvisa Uxor Radulfi: Wife of Ralph II de Limesi, mother of Alan."
Marriage Notes for Ralph de Limesi and Hadvisa -2079
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The following information on Raerus de Limesi appears on pages 549 in the book "Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, Volume 2", by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan (and published by Boydell Press in 2002; FHL Book # 942 D3KK): "de Limesi, Raerus Filius Radulfi: Son of Ralph II de Limesy."
The marriage of "Ric. Plonte" and "Helenam Brughe" is listed in the parish register of Alstonefield, Staffordshire (FHL Film # 96872, p.141), which states that they were married on 15 November 1590.
The burial of "Ric. Plonte" is listed in the "National Burial Index for England & Wales" (via FindMyPast), which states that he was buried on 18 October 1595 at St. Peter's church in Alstonfield, Staffordshire, England.
The marriage of "Ric. Plonte" and "Helenam Brughe" is listed in the parish register of Alstonefield, Staffordshire (FHL Film # 96872, p.141), which states that they were married on 15 November 1590.
The burial of a "Plonte"--who may have been Helen Brugh Plonte--is listed the "National Burial Index for England & Wales" (via FindMyPast), and states that this individual was buried on 17 March 1612 at St. Peter's church in Alstonfield, Staffordshire, England.
Information on Helen (Ellen) Burgh was obtained from research reports provided by Catharine Ann Brough Hind to the RBFO in August-September 2000. (Hind Research Reports to the RBFO, pages 448-456.) Also, the will of John Burgh made in August 1557 says "my daughter Helen".... (Hind Research Reports to the RBFO, p.466.)
Marriage Notes for Richard Plonte and Helen Burgh-323
The marriage of "Ric. Plonte" and "Helenam Brughe" is listed in the parish register of Alstonefield, Staffordshire (FHL Film # 96872, p.141), which states that they were married on 15 November 1590.
Genealogical information supplied by Catharine Ann Brough Hind to the RBFO in August-September 2000. (RBFO Research Reports from Ann Hind, pages 448-456.) Also, see the "Pedigree of [the] Brough[s]" by John Sleight, 1883, in his book "A History of the Ancient Parish of Leek, in Staffordshire: Including Horton, Cheddleton, and Ipstones." This pedigree chart can also be found in the 2000 RBFO book, page 52, or in the FHL Film # 476966, p.119.
The death dates of 1649/1653 are given by Catharine Ann Brough Hind in her Hind Research Reports, p.470-471, as follows: "This Lionel in his will, made 20 June 1649 [and] probated 29 April 1653 had only a son John by 1649."
Information on Grace (Elizabeth) Wood and her possible father is contained in the Hind Research Report of 2000, p.448.
The burial of an unbaptized "Infant" followed by the name "Lio: [Lionel] Brough" is listed and shown (via FindMyPast and FHL Film # 7605006) in the parish record of St. Edward, Leek, Staffordshire, England, which states that he was buried on 7 April 1648. In addition, the burial of "An unbap.[tised] son of Leo. Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book: 942.46, B4pr, v.13, page 77), which states that he was buried on 7 April 1649 (but which should have been listed as 1648).
The christening of "John Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book #: 942.46, B4pr, Vol.13, page 82), which states that he was christened on 3 April 1650 as the son of "Lionel and Grace Brough of Middlehulme".
The burial of "John Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book #: 942.46, B4pr, Vol.13, page 92), which states that he was buried on 24 March 1654 and that he was "oif Middlehulme".
John Brough is mentioned by his father, Lionel Brough, in his will of 20 June 1649. See Hind Research Report, page 470.
"Tho. Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book #: 942.46, B4pr, Vol.13, page 158), which states that in 1663, "Ralph Bennison, Churchwarden for Bradnap...Paid to Tho. Brough [money] for Bell ropes".
Thomas Brough was buried on 9 July 1675 in Leek, Staffordshire (source: Staffordshire Burial Index).
"Thomas Brough" is listed in the 1670 Inventory of "Thomas Brough of Midel=hulme deseced yeoma", dated 1 August 1675, Administration on 6 October 1675, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.33), which states: "Thomas Brough late of Middle=Hulme to Margeret Brough his relict [or wife]".
"Thomas Brough" is listed in the 1670 Will of "Ann Brough of Leek", dated 7 October 1670, Inventory on 18 October 1670, and Probated on 20 October 1670, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.32), which lists "Ann Brough of Leeke widd:", and her family members as: "my daughter Jane Goodales Two Children Viz: John & Jane Goodale", "my soone Thomas Brough", "my grandchilde Mary Milner (minor)", Hannah Waterhouse one other of my grandchildren (minor)", "Sarah Waterhouse sister unto ye s[ai]d Hannah Waterhouse (minor)", and "my Loveinge daughter Jane Goodale, Late wife of Christopher Goodale my Executor".
"Thomas Brough" is listed in the 1665 Will of "Martin Brough of Leek", dated 14 March 1664/1665, Inventory on 7 April 1665, and Probated on 21 November 1665, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.31), which lists "Martin Brough of Middlehoulme in pishe of Leeke Husbandman sicke in bodie", and his family as follows: "my Brother Thomas Brough", "my Brother in law Christofer goodale", "Thomas Waterhouwse my Brother in law", "Tho: Millner my brother in Law", "my Sister Sara Waterhowse", "Jane Goddale my Sister", and "Anne Brough my mother" and "Sole executor".
Genealogical information supplied by Catharine Ann Brough Hind to the RBFO in August-September 2000. (RBFO Research Reports from Ann Hind, pages 448-456--especially pages 449 and 451.) See also the "Pedigree of the Broughs of Leek" as found in the book "A History of the Ancient Parish of Leek, in Staffordshire: Including Horton, Cheddleton, and Ipstones," by John Sleigh, 1883. FHL Film # 476966, p.119.
"Thomas Brough" may be the same person who is mentioned in the book "The History of the County of Stafford, Volume VII: Leek and the Moorlands" (Volume VII of "The Victoria History of the Counties of England" series, 1996), as follows:
Page 117: "In 1667 an ironmonger named Thomas Brough was living in Leek."
"Margeret Brough" is listed in the 1670 Inventory of "Thomas Brough of Midel=hulme deseced yeoma", dated 1 August 1675, Administration on 6 October 1675, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.33), which states: "Thomas Brough late of Middle=Hulme to Margeret Brough his relict [or wife]".
Family group record information obtained from 1988 RBFO book, p.48.
For information on Margaret Adams and her parents see Hind Research Reports, page 471.
Marriage Notes for Thomas Brough and Margaret Adams-332
RBFO Hind Research Reports, pages 449, states the following: "Of Thomas [Brough] and Margaret Adams, their marriage settlement was recorded between the two families in 1649, and yet their marriage is assessed as c 1660.
The christening of "Kezia Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, Volume 13, page 165), which states that she was christened on 3 May 1666 as the daughter of "Tom Brough, of Middlehulme".
"Thomas Waterhouwse" is listed in the 1665 Will of "Martin Brough of Leek", dated 14 March 1664/1665, Inventory on 7 April 1665, and Probated on 21 November 1665, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.31), which lists "Martin Brough of Middlehoulme in pishe of Leeke Husbandman sicke in bodie", and his family as follows: "my Brother Thomas Brough", "my Brother in law Christofer goodale", "Thomas Waterhouwse my Brother in law", "Tho: Millner my brother in Law", "my Sister Sara Waterhowse", "Jane Goddale my Sister", and "Anne Brough my mother" and "Sole executor".
The christening of "Sarah Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, v.13, page 13), which states that she was christened on 5 June 1636 as the daughter of "Lionel and Anne Brough of Middlehulme".
"Sara Waterhowse" is listed in the 1665 Will of "Martin Brough of Leek", dated 14 March 1664/1665, Inventory on 7 April 1665, and Probated on 21 November 1665, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.31), which lists "Martin Brough of Middlehoulme in pishe of Leeke Husbandman sicke in bodie", and his family as follows: "my Brother Thomas Brough", "my Brother in law Christofer goodale", "Thomas Waterhouwse my Brother in law", "Tho: Millner my brother in Law", "my Sister Sara Waterhowse", "Jane Goddale my Sister", and "Anne Brough my mother" and "Sole executor".
Genealogical information supplied by Catharine Ann Brough Hind to the RBFO in August-September 2000. (RBFO Research Reports from Ann Hind, pages 448-456--especially page 449.) Also, information on the children of Thomas Waterhouse and Sarah Brough appears in the Hind Research Reports, on p.470.
Information on the children of Thomas Waterhouse and Sarah Brough appears in the Hind Research Reports to the Brough Family Organization, August-September 2000, page 470.
"Hannah Waterhouse" is listed in the 1670 Will of "Ann Brough of Leek", dated 7 October 1670, Inventory on 18 October 1670, and Probated on 20 October 1670, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.32), which lists "Ann Brough of Leeke widd:", and her family members as: "my daughter Jane Goodales Two Children Viz: John & Jane Goodale", "my soone Thomas Brough", "my grandchilde Mary Milner (minor)", Hannah Waterhouse one other of my grandchildren (minor)", "Sarah Waterhouse sister unto ye s[ai]d Hannah Waterhouse (minor)", and "my Loveinge daughter Jane Goodale, Late wife of Christopher Goodale my Executor".
The marriage of "Will. Goodale" and "Sarah Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, Volume 13, page 229), which states that they were married on 30 April 1684 and that they were "of Leek-frith".
"Ann Brough" is listed in the 1670 Will of "Ann Brough of Leek", dated 7 October 1670, Inventory on 18 October 1670, and Probated on 20 October 1670, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.32), which lists "Ann Brough of Leeke widd:", and her family members as: "my daughter Jane Goodales Two Children Viz: John & Jane Goodale", "my soone Thomas Brough", "my grandchilde Mary Milner (minor)", Hannah Waterhouse one other of my grandchildren (minor)", "Sarah Waterhouse sister unto ye s[ai]d Hannah Waterhouse (minor)", and "my Loveinge daughter Jane Goodale, Late wife of Christopher Goodale my Executor".
Information on the children of Thomas Waterhouse and Sarah Brough appears in the Hind Research Reports to the Brough Family Organization, August-September 2000, page 470.
The christening of "Sarah Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, v.13, page 13), which states that she was christened on 5 June 1636 as the daughter of "Lionel and Anne Brough of Middlehulme".
"Sara Waterhowse" is listed in the 1665 Will of "Martin Brough of Leek", dated 14 March 1664/1665, Inventory on 7 April 1665, and Probated on 21 November 1665, Lichfield Consistory Court, Staffordshire, England, and descrtibed in the RBFO Research Reports of David Bethell of Staffordshire, England (dated 13 October 1977, p.31), which lists "Martin Brough of Middlehoulme in pishe of Leeke Husbandman sicke in bodie", and his family as follows: "my Brother Thomas Brough", "my Brother in law Christofer goodale", "Thomas Waterhouwse my Brother in law", "Tho: Millner my brother in Law", "my Sister Sara Waterhowse", "Jane Goddale my Sister", and "Anne Brough my mother" and "Sole executor".
Genealogical information supplied by Catharine Ann Brough Hind to the RBFO in August-September 2000. (RBFO Research Reports from Ann Hind, pages 448-456--especially page 449.) Also, information on the children of Thomas Waterhouse and Sarah Brough appears in the Hind Research Reports, on p.470.
Marriage Notes for William Goodale and Sarah Brough-327
The marriage of "Will. Goodale" and "Sarah Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, Volume 13, page 229), which states that they were married on 30 April 1684 and that they were "of Leek-frith".
The christening of "Tho. Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, Volume 13, page 179), which states that he was christened on 29 December 1668 as the son of "Tho. Brough, of Middle Hulme".
The marriage of "Thomas Brough" a "Yeoman" and "Edith Brindley" who were "both of the Parish of Kingsley" is listed in the parish register of Grindon, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, V.98, page 11), which states that they were married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon. Also, the marriage of "Tho. Brough" and "Edith Brindley" is listed in the Bishop's Transcript of Grindon, Staffordshire (FHL Film # 417195, Item #3), which states that they were married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon, Staffordshire.
"Thomas Brough" and his second wife, "Martha", are mentioned in the christening record of their daughter, Sarah Brough, as follows: The christening of "Sarah Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book #: 942.46, B4pr, Volume 93, p.134), which states that she was christened on 19 December 1723 as the daughter of "Thomas and Martha Brough of Middle Hulme". (Note: Thomas Brough's first wife was "Edith Brindley, who he married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon, Staffordshire.)
The burial of Thomas Brough, on 22 August 1748 in Burston (near Sandon), Staffordshire, can be found in the Brough Staffordshire Burial Index in possession of the RBFO, February 2001,
"Thomas Brough" is mentioned in the book "The History of the County of Stafford, Volume VII: Leek and the Moorlands" (Volume VII of "The Victoria History of the Counties of England" series, 1996), as follows:
Page 194: "The present Middle Hulme Farm was built in the early 17th century. It has the date 1118 and the initials TB on the east porch, placed there when the house was pebble-dashed in the later 20th century. The date is probably a misreading of 1718, which would fit the date of the kitchen wing and the occupation of the house by Thomas Brough. In 1811 the road which originally ran north-east from the house to Upper Hulme was realigned to run south-east across Blackshaw moor. By 1819 there was an inn where the new road met the Leek-Buxton turnpike road; it was called the Three Horseshoes by 1834."See also the "Pedigree of the Broughs of Leek" as found in the book "A History of the Ancient Parish of Leek, in Staffordshire: Including Horton, Cheddleton, and Ipstones," by John Sleigh, 1883. FHL Film # 476966, p.119.
Additional information supplied in 2000 by Catharine Ann Brough Hind to the RBFO. See RBFO Hind Research Reports, page 345 and 451.
Family group record information obtained from 1988 RBFO book, p.48.
The christening of "Edith Brindlie" is listed in the LDS Ordinanace Index (via the LDS Extraction Program), which states that she was christened on 17 April 1676 as the child of "John Brindlie" and "Eideth" of Kingsley. Catharine Ann Brough Hind wrote in 2000 that "the mother of Edith Brindley...was Edith nee Hollins." See Hind Research Reports, page 478.
The marriage of "Thomas Brough" a "Yeoman" and "Edith Brindley" who were "both of the Parish of Kingsley" is listed in the parish register of Grindon, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, V.98, page 11), which states that they were married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon. Also, the marriage of "Tho. Brough" and "Edith Brindley" is listed in the Bishop's Transcript of Grindon, Staffordshire (FHL Film # 417195, Item #3), which states that they were married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon, Staffordshire.
Research Note: It was suggested earlier that "Edith Brough" was buried on 31 December 1731 in Leek, but according to the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Film # 1040768, Item #3), the "Edith Brough" who died in 1731 was an "infant" who was buried on 31 December 1731 in Leek.
See also the "Pedigree of the Broughs of Leek" as found in the book "A History of the Ancient Parish of Leek, in Staffordshire: Including Horton, Cheddleton, and Ipstones," by John Sleigh, 1883. FHL Film # 476966, p.119.
Marriage Notes for Thomas Brough and Edith Brindley-340
The marriage of "Thomas Brough" a "Yeoman" and "Edith Brindley" who were "both of the Parish of Kingsley" is listed in the parish register of Grindon, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, V.98, page 11), which states that they were married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon. Also, the marriage of "Tho. Brough" and "Edith Brindley" is listed in the Bishop's Transcript of Grindon, Staffordshire (FHL Film # 417195, Item #3), which states that they were married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon, Staffordshire.
The christening of "Tho. Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, Volume 13, page 179), which states that he was christened on 29 December 1668 as the son of "Tho. Brough, of Middle Hulme".
The marriage of "Thomas Brough" a "Yeoman" and "Edith Brindley" who were "both of the Parish of Kingsley" is listed in the parish register of Grindon, Staffordshire (FHL Book # 942.46, B4pr, V.98, page 11), which states that they were married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon. Also, the marriage of "Tho. Brough" and "Edith Brindley" is listed in the Bishop's Transcript of Grindon, Staffordshire (FHL Film # 417195, Item #3), which states that they were married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon, Staffordshire.
"Thomas Brough" and his second wife, "Martha", are mentioned in the christening record of their daughter, Sarah Brough, as follows: The christening of "Sarah Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book #: 942.46, B4pr, Volume 93, p.134), which states that she was christened on 19 December 1723 as the daughter of "Thomas and Martha Brough of Middle Hulme". (Note: Thomas Brough's first wife was "Edith Brindley, who he married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon, Staffordshire.)
The burial of Thomas Brough, on 22 August 1748 in Burston (near Sandon), Staffordshire, can be found in the Brough Staffordshire Burial Index in possession of the RBFO, February 2001,
"Thomas Brough" is mentioned in the book "The History of the County of Stafford, Volume VII: Leek and the Moorlands" (Volume VII of "The Victoria History of the Counties of England" series, 1996), as follows:
Page 194: "The present Middle Hulme Farm was built in the early 17th century. It has the date 1118 and the initials TB on the east porch, placed there when the house was pebble-dashed in the later 20th century. The date is probably a misreading of 1718, which would fit the date of the kitchen wing and the occupation of the house by Thomas Brough. In 1811 the road which originally ran north-east from the house to Upper Hulme was realigned to run south-east across Blackshaw moor. By 1819 there was an inn where the new road met the Leek-Buxton turnpike road; it was called the Three Horseshoes by 1834."See also the "Pedigree of the Broughs of Leek" as found in the book "A History of the Ancient Parish of Leek, in Staffordshire: Including Horton, Cheddleton, and Ipstones," by John Sleigh, 1883. FHL Film # 476966, p.119.
Additional information supplied in 2000 by Catharine Ann Brough Hind to the RBFO. See RBFO Hind Research Reports, page 345 and 451.
Family group record information obtained from 1988 RBFO book, p.48.
"Thomas Brough" and his second wife, "Martha", are mentioned in the christening record of their daughter, Sarah Brough, as follows: The christening of "Sarah Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book #: 942.46, B4pr, Volume 93, p.134), which states that she was christened on 19 December 1723 as the daughter of "Thomas and Martha Brough of Middle Hulme".
Marriage Notes for Thomas Brough and Martha -3659
"Thomas Brough" and his second wife, "Martha", are mentioned in the christening record of their daughter, Sarah Brough, as follows: The christening of "Sarah Brough" is listed in the parish register of Leek, Staffordshire (FHL Book #: 942.46, B4pr, Volume 93, p.134), which states that she was christened on 19 December 1723 as the daughter of "Thomas and Martha Brough of Middle Hulme". (Note: Thomas Brough's first wife was "Edith Brindley, who he married on 30 March 1702 in Grindon, Staffordshire.)