27 Generations of Brough Descendants (1000-1900 AD)

Notes


2. Ralph (II) de Limesi

The following information on Ralph (II) de Limesi, appears on page 549 in the book "Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, Volume 2", by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan (and published by Boydell Press in 2002; FHL Book # 942 D3KK): "de Limesi, Radulf II: Son of Ralph I de Limesi, d.c.1093. Married Hadvise, by whom he was father of Alan and Raerus. He died between after 1115, and before 1129, when Alan was his heir."


Hadvisa (Hadvise, Hadewise, Hadvisa Uxor Raduli, Hawise)

The following information on Hadvise, appears on page 548 in the book "Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, Volume 2", by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan (and published by Boydell Press in 2002; FHL Book # 942 D3KK): "de Limesi, Hadvisa Uxor Radulfi: Wife of Ralph II de Limesi, mother of Alan."

LDS Ordinances for this individual may be associated with birth, marriage, death and/or burial dates different from those listed on this family group record, but were accepted in accordance with "Guidelines" produced by the LDS Church for individuals "Born before AD 1500 for [LDS] Temple Ordinance Work."


6. Raerus de Limesi

The following information on Raerus de Limesi appears on pages 549 in the book "Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, Volume 2", by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan (and published by Boydell Press in 2002; FHL Book # 942 D3KK): "de Limesi, Raerus Filius Radulfi: Son of Ralph II de Limesy."


3. Robert de Limesi

In the 1982 research document "The Possible Parentage of Ralph de Limesi", by David Bethell, a genealogist (RBFO, August 1982, pp.10-11), Bethell states the following about Robert de Limesi: "The 'Gesta Abbatum' says that Hertford Prior was founded by Robert de Limesi in the time of Abbott Paul (1077-1093). The grant to the priory of Hertford Church is also from the time of 'abbot P',...but apparently the priory was already founded, because the first prior, Ralph [de Limesi], was the first of the witnesses to that grant. Thomas Talbot is said to have read that Ralph founded Hertford Priory, was buried there, and was also the Ralph who came over with the Conqueror. In the light of the other evidence, this statement seems to be cramming too much into the career of one Ralph. If the statement in 'Gesta Abbatum' is not merely an error, it is of particular interest. Robert de Limesi was Bishop of Chester, Lichfield and Coventry [in] about 1100; there is a reference in King's Vale Royal, probably derived from Hovedon's chronicle, that Robert had been a chaplain of the king (William Rufus). It is not impossible that Robert was involved in the founding of Hertford Prioy, and was thus presumably very closely related to Ralph de Limesi who granted Hertford church to the priory, and to Ralph de Limesi the Conqueror's sister's son."

In the 1981 book, "The Ancestors of Richard Brough and Mary Horleston, From 1190-1873 AD", (RBFO August 1981, p.7), David Bethell, a genealogist, states that "Robert [de Limesi] is assumed to have been a son or brother of Ralph de Limesi, ancestor of the Barons Odingselles. Ralph was described as a son of a sister of William the Conqueror;... This would make Robert de Limesi, Bishop of Chester, a grandson or great-grandson on the maternal side of Robert Duke of Normandy."

In the 1879-1881 book "History of Hertfordshire" (Volume III), author John Edwin Cussans states that the father of "Robert de Limesy, Bishop of Chester" was "Reyner". (FHL book #: British Section, Q942.58, H2cu, Vol.3.)

Information that supports the individuals, dates, places and relationships on this Family Group Record was obtained from research reports send to the RBFO during 1977 to 1989 by David Bethell, a professional genealogist living in Leek, Staffordshire, England. In 1990, Warren D. Brough, an RBFO Genealogist, compiled this information onto family group sheets. More information on the early Broughs of Staffordshire can be found in the RBFO book "The Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants," July 2000, pages 7-44.

For supporting and additional information about this individual, see the book "The History of the Broughs of Staffordshire, England, and their English, American and Australian Descendants", by the Richard Brough Family Organization (RBFO), 2004, p.23-25.